Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/05/2003 01:29 PM House FIN

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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 05, 2003                                                                                          
                         1:29 P.M.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE HFC 03 - 12, Side A                                                                                                        
TAPE HFC 03 - 12, Side B                                                                                                        
TAPE HFC 03 - 13, Side A                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris called the House  Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 1:29 P.M.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Harris, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Williams, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Vice-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                       
Representative Gary Stevens                                                                                                     
Representative Bill Stoltze                                                                                                     
Representative Jim Whitaker                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                       
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Diane Barrans, Executive  Director, Postsecondary Education                                                                     
Commission, Department of  Education; Sheila King,  Finance                                                                     
Officer,  Alaska  Postsecondary  Education,  Department  of                                                                     
Education; Kevin Duffy, Acting  Commissioner, Department of                                                                     
Fish  and   Game;  Kevin  Brooks,  Director,  Division   of                                                                     
Administrative Services, Department of Fish and Game; Gordy                                                                     
Williams, Legislative Liaison, Department of Fish and Game;                                                                     
Michael   Barton,   Acting  Commissioner,   Department   of                                                                     
Transportation & Public Facilities; Michael Downing, Acting                                                                     
Deputy Commissioner, Department of Transportation &  Public                                                                     
Facilities; Dennis Poshard, Legislative Liaison, Department                                                                     
of  Transportation  and Public  Facilities;  Nancy  Slagle,                                                                     
Director, Division of Administrative Services, Department of                                                                    
Transportation  and  Public  Facilities;   Frank  Richards,                                                                     
Statewide   Maintenance   &   Operations,   Department   of                                                                     
Transportation & Public Facilities; Captain George Capacci,                                                                     
General  Manager,  Marine  Highway  System,  Department  of                                                                     
Transportation & Public Facilities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 Suzanne Tryck, Director, Alaska Regional Affairs, University                                                                   
 of Washington School of Medicine, WAMI Program.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 GENERAL SUBJECT(S):                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                      AGENCY OVERVIEWS:                                                                                       
          ALASKA POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION COMMISSION                                                                           
                   DEPARTMENT FISH & GAME                                                                                     
        DEPARTMENT TRANSPORATION & PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The following overview was taken in log note format.  Tapes                                                                     
and handouts will be on file with the House Finance                                                                             
Committee through the 23rd Legislative Session, contact 465-                                                                    
2156. After the 23rd Legislative Session they will be                                                                           
available through the Legislative Library at 465-3808.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 LOG SPEAKER                DISCUSSION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
      TAPE HFC 03 - 12                                                                                                        
      SIDE A                                                                                                                  
 000 Co-Chair Harris        Convened the House Finance Committee                                                                
                            meeting at 1:40 P.M.  A roll call was                                                               
                            taken.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                               ALASKA COMMISSION ON POSTSECONDARY                                                             
                                           EDUCATION                                                                       
 133 DIANE BARRANS,         Provided the Committee with a handout.                                                              
      EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, (Copy on File).  She explained that the                                                               
      POSTSECONDARY         mission of the Commission and the Alaska                                                            
      EDUCATION             Student Loan Corporation, its financial                                                             
      COMMISSION,           partner, was to serve Alaska by                                                                     
      DEPARTMENT OF         supporting the development of                                                                       
      EDUCATION             economically viable, lifelong learners                                                              
                            and citizens by providing educational                                                               
                            financial assistance to postsecondary                                                               
                            students and authorizing the operations                                                             
                            of postsecondary institutions in Alaska.                                                          
 318 Ms. Barrans            Listed the ways in which those concerns                                                             
                            are addressed:                                                                                      
                              · providing education financial aid                                                               
                              · developing and delivering financial                                                             
                                aid planning tools to students and                                                              
                                supporters                                                                                      
                              · developing and implementing                                                                     
                                strategies to increase access and                                                               
                                participation rates of Alaskans in                                                              
                                postsecondary education                                                                         
                              · supporting and promoting Alaska                                                                 
                                postsecondary education institutions                                                            
                              · providing for quality standards for                                                             
                                the education and training                                                                      
                              · responding to emerging needs for                                                              
                                administering education financial                                                               
                                assistance and access programs and                                                              
                                services.                                                                                     
406 Ms. Barrans            Added that the Commission offers                                                                     
                           education access assistance by:                                                                      
                           • originating and servicing                                                                          
                             AlaskAdvantage loans, including                                                                    
                             federal Title IV loans, Alaska                                                                     
                             Supplemental Education loans,                                                                      
                             Teacher Education loans, and Family                                                                
                             Education loans                                                                                    
                           • originating and servicing Memorial                                                                 
                             Education loans                                                                                    
                           • disbursing state and federal grants to                                                             
                             low-income students                                                                                
                           • coordinating the WICHE Student                                                                     
                             Exchange and WWAMI graduate medical                                                                
                             education programs                                                                               
547 Ms. Barrans            Continued that the Commission protects                                                               
                           the education consumer by:                                                                           
                           • monitoring school advertising and                                                                  
                             contracts with students                                                                            
                           • responding to public complaints                                                                    
                           • assuring refunds and student teach-                                                                
                             outs when schools close                                                                            
                           • gathering information on aid for                                                                   
                             Alaskans and disseminating it so that                                                              
                             qualified residents are aware of                                                                   
                             financial resources available for                                                                  
                             postsecondary study                                                                              
745 Ms. Barrans                                                                                                                 
                           Listed the organizational structure of                                                               
                           the Commission is a 14-member body in                                                                
                           accordance with AS 14.42.0 15. The                                                                   
                           Executive Director reports to the                                                                    
                           Commission. The Commission staff, totals                                                             
                           104 positions, which are organized in                                                                
                           five divisions, managed and supported by                                                             
                           a seven-member professional team: the                                                                
                           Information Services Director, Finance                                                               
                           Officer, Internal Auditor, Director of                                                               
                           Operations and Outreach, Compliance                                                                  
                           Services Director, and Personnel Officer,                                                            
                           each reporting directly to the Executive                                                             
                           Director.                                                                                            
                           The Commission operations center is                                                                  
                           located in Juneau and its marketing,                                                                 
                           outreach, institutional compliance                                                                   
                           services, and information technology unit                                                            
                           is located in Anchorage.                                                                           
 847 Ms. Barrans            Stated that the Alaska Student Loan                                                                 
                            Corporation has statutory                                                                           
                            responsibilities and duties:                                                                        
                            • Borrow money to carry out the                                                                     
                              Corporation's purpose as the financing                                                            
                              source for the AlaskAdvantage Programs                                                            
                              and issue obligations as evidence of                                                              
                              borrowing.                                                                                        
                            • Invest money held by the Corporation.                                                             
                            • Enter into agreements with the ACPE to                                                            
                              administer the education loan fund.                                                               
                                                                                                                              
 920 Ms. Barrans            Reiterated the highlights of the                                                                    
                            organizational structure.                                                                         
 935 Ms. Barrans                                                                                                                
                            Spoke to the AlaskAdvantage Loan Program.                                                           
                            She explained that after a period of                                                                
                            several years from the late 1980's                                                                  
                            through the mid-1990, during which the                                                              
                            ASLC experienced significant improvements                                                           
                            to the loan program and the servicing of                                                            
                            the portfolio have resulted in a positive                                                           
                            financial impact for the Corporation.                                                               
                            Since 1995, when the first of many                                                                  
                            program changes were made by the                                                                    
                            Legislature, the Corporation has                                                                    
                            continued to progress toward creating a                                                             
                            strong financial foundation for the loan                                                            
                            program:                                                                                            
                            • The programs cohort default rate has                                                              
                              dropped from 17.0% in 1996 to 4.6% in                                                             
                              2001.                                                                                             
                            • Program expenses including loan losses                                                            
                              have declined by $8.2 million from                                                                
                              FY1995 to FY2002.                                                                                 
                            •  The cumulative fund deficit, which                                                               
                            peaked at $50 million in FY1997, has been                                                           
                            eliminated in FY2002.                                                                             
 1051 Ms. Barrans                                                                                                               
                            Referenced Page 4 of the handout.  She                                                              
                            spoke to the Corporation's key                                                                      
                            operational objectives, which are                                                                   
                            prioritized to allow the Corporation to                                                             
                            increase its financial strength and                                                                 
                            effectiveness to fulfill the mission                                                                
                           effectively:                                                                                         
                              · Insure the ongoing fiscal stability                                                             
                                and credit standing of the                                                                      
                                Corporation                                                                                     
                              · Continue to offer low-interest rates                                                            
                                to insure affordable education to                                                               
                                new customers                                                                                 
                             · Continue to identify ways to                                                                     
                                translate financial stability into                                                              
                                cost savings for existing customers                                                             
                             · Provide an annual payment to the                                                                 
                                State as a return of its initial                                                                
                                capital contribution of $306 million                                                            
                           The Corporation continues to implement                                                               
                           changes that will maintain and further                                                               
                           improve the health of the loan fund,                                                                 
                           while at the same time insure that access                                                            
                           to education funding remains as broad as                                                             
                           possible.                                                                                          
1157 Ms. Barrans           Referenced the Student Loan Operations.                                                              
                           The goals of that component are:                                                                     
                             · to service the outstanding loan                                                                  
                                portfolio, maximizing repayment to                                                              
                                the student loan fund and protecting                                                            
                                the financial integrity of ASLC;                                                                
                             · to identify and implement program                                                                
                                efficiencies through improved                                                                   
                                management, processes, and                                                                      
                                technology to insure the self                                                                   
                                sustainability and marketability of                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                the AlaskAdvantagePrograms through                                                              
                                the 21st century;                                                                               
                             · to provide low-cost financing for                                                                
                                the loan programs                                                                               
                             · to disburse low-cost loans to                                                                    
                                eligible Alaskans enabling them to                                                              
                                pursue postsecondary education and                                                              
                                training; and                                                                                   
                             · to serve and value our customers,                                                                
                                including students, parents,                                                                    
                                policymakers, bondholders,                                                                      
                                professional colleagues, and co-                                                                
                                workers.                                                                                      
1328 Ms. Barrans           Within that Division are the:                                                                        
                             · Information Support Services                                                                     
                            · Finance                                                                                           
                             · Student Financial Aid                                                                            
                             · Loan Servicing                                                                                   
                             · Customer Service                                                                               
1420 Ms. Barrans                                                                                                                
                             · Administrative Services                                                                          
                             · Collections, and                                                                                 
                             · Outreach                                                                                       
1511 Ms. Barrans           Highlighted the program administration.                                                              
                           This component contains the Executive                                                                
                           Office, the Personnel Office, and the                                                                
                           Compliance Services section. The goals                                                             
                            of the component are:                                                                               
                              · to administer and provide policy                                                                
                                direction for programs administered                                                             
                                by ACPE and funded by ASLC,                                                                     
                                identifying and achieving                                                                       
                                efficiencies through improved                                                                   
                                management, processes and                                                                       
                                technology;                                                                                     
                              · to insure postsecondary programs and                                                            
                                institutions operating in the state,                                                            
                                with the exception of the University                                                            
                                of Alaska system, comply with AS                                                                
                                14.48 and 20 AAC 17, which relates                                                              
                                to regulation of institutions;                                                                  
                              · to emphasize quality in education                                                               
                                and training programs to insure                                                                 
                                value for Alaskans in their pursuit                                                             
                                of lifelong learning; and                                                                       
                              · to provide Alaskans with information                                                            
                                about the educational opportunities                                                             
                                available in Alaska and the                                                                     
                                financial aid programs available to                                                             
                                assist in accessing those                                                                       
                                opportunities.                                                                                
 1541 Ms. Barrans                                                                                                               
                            Referenced Page 8, the Western Interstate                                                           
                            Commission on Higher Education (WICHE)                                                              
                            Student Exchange Program. The goal of the                                                           
                            component is to provide undergraduate and                                                           
                            graduate educational access and                                                                     
                            information to Alaska students studying                                                             
                            or wishing to study in fields for which                                                             
                            there are no programs operating in Alaska                                                           
                            or which are there are no programs                                                                  
                            operating in Alaska or which are offered                                                            
                            to residents of member states in order to                                                           
                            maximize the benefits of regional                                                                   
                            educational resources.                                                                              
                            The component administers various WICHE                                                             
                            programs in Alaska:                                                                                 
                              · The Western Undergraduate Exchange                                                              
                                (WUE);                                                                                          
                              · The Professional Student Exchange                                                               
                                Program (PSEP); and                                                                             
                              · The Western Regional Graduate                                                                   
                                Program (WRGP).                                                                               
 1750 Representative        Asked if the State was subsidizing the                                                              
      Stoltze               training of lawyers.                                                                              
 1809 Ms. Barrans           Advised that at one time, the                                                                       
                            professional student exchange program did                                                         
                           support the study of law, however, that                                                              
                           did end in 1988.                                                                                   
1820 Ms. Barrans           Explained that the structure in which                                                                
                           Alaska participates in that program is                                                               
                           basically a loan program.  Students that                                                             
                           participate in that program, incur as a                                                              
                           loan debt, the value of the support fee                                                              
                           paid on their behalf.                                                                              
1845 Ms. Barrans           Total loan volume for FY02-FY03 is just                                                              
                           over $125 thousand dollars.                                                                        
1941 Ms. Barrans           Noted that Suzanne Tryck, Director,                                                                  
                           Alaska Regional Affairs, University of                                                               
                           Washington School of Medicine, WWAMI                                                                 
                           Program, was on line and available for                                                               
                           questions regarding the WWAMI program.                                                             
2021 Ms. Barrans                                                                                                                
                           Described the Washington, Wyoming,                                                                   
                           Alaska, Montana and Idaho (WWAMI)                                                                    
                           program.  The program provides guaranteed                                                            
                           access to a medical school for residents                                                             
                           of Alaska. The University of Washington                                                              
                           School of Medicine (UWSM), which focuses                                                             
                           on producing family practice doctors,                                                                
                           acts as the regional medical school for                                                              
                           Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana and                                                             
                           Idaho by reserving a predetermined number                                                            
                           of class places each year. After                                                                     
                           admission, Alaska students attend the                                                                
                           University of Alaska, Anchorage, for the                                                             
                           first year of medical school. Students                                                               
                           attend the second through fourth years in                                                            
                           Seattle, with the option of clinical                                                                 
                           clerkships during this time at clinics in                                                            
                           towns in the WWAMI states.                                                                           
                           WWAMI funding supports the Alaska                                                                    
                           clinical sites, as Alaska is a                                                                       
                           participant in the WWAMI program. Alaska                                                             
                           currently contracts with the UWSM and                                                                
                           pays for thirty places, ten in each of                                                               
                           the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th years of study.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                           Effective with the 1999-2000 school year,                                                            
                           as a condition of receiving WWAMI                                                                    
                           support, Alaska students must agree to                                                               
                           practice medicine in Alaska for five                                                                 
                           years or, alternatively, to repay a                                                                  
                           portion of WWAMI program costs paid by                                                               
                           the State of Alaska. The loan component                                                              
                           consists of the annual difference between                                                            
                           resident and non-resident tuition at the                                                             
                           UWSM for the program period, plus                                                                  
                            interest.  For participants entering the                                                            
                            program in 2002, the interest rate is                                                               
                            3.25%.  For the 2002-2003 school year,                                                              
                            the Board of Regents of the University of                                                           
                            Washington set the nonresident tuition                                                              
                            differential at $16,126.00.                                                                       
 2221 Ms. Barrans                                                                                                               
                              · Administered WWAMI contract between                                                             
                                the Alaska Postsecondary Education                                                              
                                Commission, the University of                                                                   
                                Alaska, and UWSM.                                                                               
                              · Continue to enter into participation                                                            
                                contracts and service the existing                                                              
                                ones. Program participants must                                                                 
                                practice in Alaska for five years                                                               
                                following program completion. If                                                                
                                non-compliant, they will be required                                                            
                                to repay the tuition differential                                                               
                                paid on their behalf, plus interest.                                                            
                              · Provide information on WWAMI to all                                                             
                                Alaskan high schools.                                                                         
 2340 Vice-Chair Meyer      Asked how the interest rates on the                                                                 
                            student loans were determined.                                                                    
 2354 Ms. Barrans           Responded that they are set on a formula                                                            
                            that the federal government uses.  It is                                                            
                            reset once a year based on an average of                                                            
                            a resale rate for the index.                                                                      
 2427 SHIELA KING, FINANCE Explained that the loan rate was set                                                                 
      OFFICER, ALASKA       based on the 91 day 'veto' based on the                                                             
      POSTSECONDARY         last option in May every year.                                                                    
      EDUCATION,                                                                                                                
      DEPARTMENT OF                                                                                                             
      EDUCATION                                                                                                                 
 2501 Vice-Chair Meyer      Noted that one of his constituents wants                                                            
                            to know why he cannot refinance his                                                                 
                          student loan.                                                                                       
 2524 Ms. Barrans           Responded that in April of this year, the                                                           
                            Alaska Postsecondary indents to offer a                                                             
                            consolidated loan offering.                                                                         
                            The loans that the Commission issued                                                                
                            prior to 2002, were fixed rate loans and                                                            
                            were established based on the cost of                                                               
                            financing for the funds that funded that                                                            
                            loan.  The other issue is that there was                                                            
                            zero interest charged while the borrower                                                            
                            was in school, which needs to be factored                                                           
                            in.  The rates that are issued today, the                                                           
                            interest are reset each year.  Interest                                                             
                            begins to accrue the day that the loan is                                                           
                            disbursed. She summarized that the                                                                  
                            situation is 'not black and white'.                                                                 
                            Effort needs to be made to mitigate the                                                           
                           costs.                                                                                             
2749 Vice-Chair Meyer      Inquired if all students going to all out                                                            
                           of State schools pay the same interest                                                               
                           rate.                                                                                              
2817 Ms. Barrans           Stated that the agency does not                                                                      
                          differentiate.                                                                                      
2831 Vice-Chair Meyer      Asked if all Alaskans qualify for the                                                                
                           loan if they request it.                                                                           
2845 Ms. Barrans           Acknowledged that there is certain                                                                   
                           eligibility criterion that needs to be                                                               
                           met for both the federal and state loan.                                                             
                             · No child support past obligations                                                                
                             · No default on any previous loans                                                                 
                                with the state of Alaska                                                                        
                             · If they are subject to selective                                                                 
                                service requirements, there needs to                                                            
                                be evidence that those requirements                                                             
                                have been satisfied.                                                                            
                            A federal loan is an entitlement.  For                                                              
                           the Alaska Supplemental loan, there is a                                                             
                           credit review and that money is not                                                                  
                           guaranteed.                                                                                        
2932 Ms. Barrans           Pointed out that the decline rate was                                                                
                          less than 7%.                                                                                       
2957 Vice-Chair Meyer      Asked about the WWAMI program and if                                                                 
                           there was a requirement for how long the                                                             
                           student would have to live in the State                                                              
                           of Alaska.                                                                                         
3023 Ms. Barrans           Responded that there is an obligation                                                                
                           that they return and work up to 4 years                                                              
                           or they are obligated to repay as a loan                                                             
                           that portion that the State paid. She                                                                
                           added that there is a difference between                                                             
                           resident and non-resident.  Currently,                                                               
                           the amount that would be is in excess of                                                             
                           $65 thousand dollars.                                                                              
3058 Representative        Referenced Page 6 amount collected                                                                   
      Hawker               dollars on delinquencies.  He asked why                                                              
                           those numbers had dropped.                                                                         
3137 Ms. Barrans           Replied that the default rate had dropped                                                            
                           substantially.  Also, the dividend has                                                               
                           dropped which was a single source of                                                                 
                           capturing the collectable debt.                                                                    
3218 Representative        Stated that the decline seemed unusual.                                                              
      Hawker               He questioned if the State had reached a                                                             
                           point of collective-ability of the loans.                                                          
3249 Ms. Barrans           Replied that the number of borrowers has                                                             
                           increased.  In 1996, tracking began and                                                              
                           it was noted that there was a higher                                                                 
                           default rate of borrowers within the                                                                 
                           State- 40% higher.  That amount dropped                                                              
                           too less than a 5% differential in the                                                             
                           2001 number.                                                                                       
 3347 Co-Chair Williams     Referenced the number previous mentioned                                                            
                            that 1 in 4 students do not go on to be                                                             
                            college education.  He asked the national                                                           
                            norm.                                                                                             
 3420 Ms. Barrans           Suggested that statistic indicates that                                                             
                            at the point of going on to college, on 1                                                           
                            in 4 choose that route.  On the average,                                                            
                            other states see about 40-50% of their                                                              
                            graduating students go on to college.  By                                                           
                            delaying the benefits, the student misses                                                           
                            out.  She noted that the agency is                                                                  
                            attempting to educated students regarding                                                           
                            the benefits of a college education.  She                                                           
                            noted that they were trying to start                                                                
                            educating people on how to create the                                                               
                            college expectation.  It is important to                                                            
                            identify the programs and what is                                                                   
                            effective to getting kids excited about                                                             
                            postsecondary education.                                                                          
 3620 Ms. Barrans           Added that in 2001, there was a                                                                     
                            clarification of the Commission's                                                                   
                            mission.                                                                                          
 3640 Representative        Pointed out that he had received Alaska's                                                           
      Stevens               student loan.  He asked about the age                                                               
                            group of the borrowers.                                                                           
 3726 Ms. Barrans           Replied that the agency is available for                                                            
                            lending at any point in life to help the                                                            
                            student no matter what their age.                                                                 
 3828 Representative        Asked the number of current students with                                                           
      Stevens               outstanding loans; he asked the total                                                               
                            number of loans made throughout the                                                                 
                            history of the program.                                                                           
 3847 Ms. Barrans           Responded that the agency makes about                                                               
                            10,000 loans a year; at this point, there                                                           
                            are approximately 75,000 borrowers.  She                                                            
                            did not know the total number of Alaskans                                                           
                            served.  The total amount loaned to                                                                 
                            Alaskans is in excess of $1.3 billion                                                               
                            dollars since inception.                                                                          
 3942 Representative        Referenced Page 4 and asked the initial                                                             
      Stevens               amount.                                                                                           
 3950 Ms. Barrans           Replied that $306 million was the total                                                             
                            assets that was conveyed to the                                                                     
                           Corporation.                                                                                       
 4052 Ms. Barrans           Concluded her presentation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                            TAPE HFC 03 - 12, Side B                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                            DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                     
 4703 KEVIN DUFFY, ACTING- Discussed the Department's programs and                                                              
      COMMISSIONER,         missions. The mission is to protect,                                                                
      DEPARTMENT OF FISH    maintain and improve the fish, game and                                                             
      AND GAME              aquatic plant resources of the State and                                                          
                           to manage their use and development with                                                             
                           the best economy and well being of the                                                               
                           people in the State, consistent with the                                                             
                           sustainable yield principles.                                                                      
4524 Acting-Commissioner Reviewed the Department of Fish and                                                                    
      Duffy                Game's staff.                                                                                      
4409 Acting-Commissioner Stated that the Department has a $135                                                                  
     Duffy                million dollar budget from about 10                                                                   
                           separate funding sources.  The majority                                                              
                           of the funding comes from three main                                                                 
                           sources:                                                                                             
                             · $48 million federal funds                                                                        
                             · $30 million general funds                                                                        
                             · $25 million from fish and game                                                                   
                                receipts.                                                                                     
4316 Acting-Commissioner He noted that the majority of the general                                                              
      Duffy                fund dollars, 80% goes into the Division                                                             
                           of Commercial Fisheries.  The Division of                                                            
                           Sport Fish and Wildlife Conservation are                                                             
                           fully funded by non-general fund sources.                                                          
4219 Acting-Commissioner Sustainability is the management                                                                       
      Duffy                philosophy of the Department with the                                                                
                           priority being subsistence use &                                                                     
                           recreational hunting and fishing.                                                                  
4111 Acting-Commissioner Statewide there are approximately 1,800                                                                
      Duffy                authorized positions, half of which are                                                              
                           part-time seasonal. The workload doubles                                                             
                           in the summer. He added that there are 40                                                            
                           locations throughout the State that the                                                              
                           Department has a presence.                                                                         
4036 Acting-Commissioner Discussed issues that would come before                                                                
      Duffy                the Legislature this session, especially                                                             
                           from the Joint Salmon Task Force.                                                                  
3931 Representative        Questioned if the Legislature should                                                                 
      Stoltze              rename the Division of Wildlife                                                                      
                           Conservation to the Division of Game.                                                                
                           Commissioner Duffy recommended waiting                                                               
                           until the Governor's proposed FY04 budget                                                            
                           comes before the Legislature.                                                                      
3843 Acting-Commissioner In response to a question by                                                                           
      Duffy                Representative Stevens, Mr. Duffy                                                                    
                           discussed the management structure. He                                                               
                           observed that a deputy commissioner would                                                            
                           not be appointed to the Division of Fish                                                             
                           and Game until the Commissioner is                                                                   
                           appointed.  He observed that his intent,                                                             
                           if he was appointed Commissioner, that he                                                            
                           would remain on the North Pacific Ground                                                             
                           Fish Council to ensure that the best                                                                 
                           interest of Alaska benefits to the                                                                   
                           maximum affect.                                                                                    
3612 Acting-Commissioner Further discussed the North Pacific                                                                  
      Duffy                 Ground Fish Council and its affect on the                                                           
                            Bering Sea crab fisheries.  He observed                                                             
                            that rationalization of the gulf                                                                    
                            fisheries is an important issue. He added                                                           
                            that the Gulf fisheries are fairly                                                                  
                            complex and this issue is extremely                                                                 
                            important to the residents of Kodiak and                                                            
                            other coastal communities.  The voting                                                              
                            structure consists of 11 members, of                                                                
                            which, 6 are from Alaska.  Mr. Duffy                                                                
                            acknowledged that internal coordination                                                             
                            was very important.                                                                               
 3330 Representative        Requested a description of the test                                                                 
      Stevens               fisheries.                                                                                        
 3255 Acting-Commissioner Reviewed the Test Fisheries program. He                                                               
      Duffy                 noted that receipts were used to assess                                                             
                            stocks. Procedures have been designed to                                                            
                            assure that test fisheries are not used                                                             
                            to run the Department. The test fish                                                                
                            component receives a large portion of the                                                           
                            operating budget for the Department.                                                              
 3202 KEVIN BROOKS,         Expanded.  He noted that the test fish                                                              
      DIRECTOR, DIVISION    has evolved in the budget.  He explained                                                            
      OF ADMINISTRATIVE     that there is about $4 million in receipt                                                           
      SERVICES, DEPARTMENT authority, however the Department has                                                                
      OF FISH AND GAME      never collected the full amount. Test                                                               
                            fisheries has involved into a funding                                                               
                            mechanism for the management program. The                                                           
                            program realizes in excess of $2 million                                                            
                            dollars a year or 10 percent of the                                                                 
                            Division of Commercial Fisheries                                                                    
                            receipts.                                                                                         
 3009 Representative        Questioned the Department's position on                                                             
      Stoltze               the Tony Knowles Coastal Trail in                                                                   
                            Anchorage.                                                                                        
 2933 Acting-Commissioner Did not know the current Administration's                                                             
      Duffy                 position. The previous Administration                                                               
                            favored the orange route, which had some                                                            
                            presence on the refuge.                                                                           
 2821 Co-Chair Harris       Asked that the Commissioner provide a map                                                           
                            of the area indicating the potential                                                                
                            routes and a statement on the previous                                                              
                            and current Administration's position.                                                            
 2756 Co-Chair Harris       Questioned if the Department was taking a                                                           
                            different philosophy on game management.                                                          
 2653 Acting-Commissioner Pointed out that the Game Board has a                                                                 
      Duffy                 range of tools by which the wildlife                                                                
                            population is managed.  He admitted that                                                            
                            it is too early in the Administration to                                                            
                            identify those positions.                                                                         
 2613 Co-Chair Harris       Referred to subsistence and observed that                                                           
                            the Governor has made a commitment to                                                               
                            address that issue.                                                                               
2545 Acting-Commissioner Stressed that subsistence would be a high                                                              
      Duffy                priority, but observed that the issue                                                                
                           remains to be addressed.  He commented                                                               
                           that he anticipated it would be                                                                      
                          multifaceted.                                                                                       
2500                                                                                                                            
                           DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC                                                            
                           FACILITIES                                                                                      
2450 MIKE BARTON, ACTING Introduced his staff and distributed a                                                                 
      COMMISSIONER,        handout.  (Copy on File).                                                                          
      DEPARTMENT OF                                                                                                             
      TRANSPORTATION &                                                                                                          
      PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                                                         
2309 Acting-Commissioner Provided an overview of the handout.  He                                                               
      Barton               noted the regional boundaries serviced by                                                            
                           the Department:                                                                                      
                             · Northern Region                                                                                  
                             · Central Region                                                                                   
                             · Southeast Region                                                                               
2223 Acting-Commissioner Pointed out that there are 84 maintenance                                                              
      Barton               stations statewide.                                                                                
2152 Acting-Commissioner Spoke to the:                                                                                          
      Barton                                                                                                                    
                             · National highway system;                                                                       
                             · Alaska highway system;                                                                           
                             · The Alaska highway system; the 261                                                               
                                State-owned airports;                                                                           
                             · The 73 State-owned harbors, of                                                                   
                                which, 51 are operated by agreement                                                             
                                with local governments;                                                                         
                             · 33 ports-of-call consisting of 3,500                                                             
                                nautical miles                                                                                
2051 Acting-Commissioner Referenced the organizational chart of                                                                 
    Barton               the Department and the components of                                                                   
                           responsibility of each division.                                                                   
1934 Acting-Commissioner Pointed out the historical construction                                                                
      Barton               expenditures from 1997 through 2004. The                                                             
                           trend is upward.  There are also two bond                                                            
                           programs.                                                                                          
1910 Acting-Commissioner He noted that the operating budget shows                                                               
      Barton               the opposite trend, trailing downward.                                                               
                           The operating budget buying power has                                                                
                           also reduced in the past few years.                                                                
1841 Acting-Commissioner Noted that the operating budget by                                                                     
      Barton               funding source:                                                                                      
                             · AK marine Hwy Fund $86.1                                                                         
                             · State Designated program receipts -                                                              
                               $1.1                                                                                             
                             · Receipts Services - $7.2                                                                         
                             · Federal Receipts - $2.8                                                                          
                             · General Funds - $94.3                                                                            
                             · General Program Receipts - $.1                                                                 
                              · I/A Receipts - $4.6                                                                             
                              · Hwy Working Capital Fund - $23.7                                                                
                              · International Airport Revenue Fund -                                                            
                                $47.3                                                                                           
                              · Oil/Hazard Fund - $.7                                                                           
                              · Capital Improvement Program Receipts                                                            
                                - $83.4                                                                                         
                            He noted that it totaled to a little over                                                           
                            $350 million dollars.                                                                             
 1820 Acting-Commissioner Pointed out the general fund and receipt-                                                             
      Barton                supported services by function.  The                                                                
                            maintenance and operations portion of the                                                           
                            budget amounts to approximately $86,729                                                             
                            million dollars. Those funds are used to                                                            
                            maintain roads and airports.                                                                      
 1727 Acting-Commissioner Listed the regional maintenance funding                                                               
      Barton                and the totals related to each region:                                                              
                              · Southeast - $8,953 million dollars                                                              
                              · Northern - $37,166 million dollars                                                              
                              · Central - $29,630 million dollars                                                             
 1638 Acting-Commissioner Highlighted the maintenance concerns:                                                                 
      Barton                                                                                                                    
                              · FY03 Operations Budget Cut                                                                      
                              · Highways, Aviation & Facility                                                                   
                                Impacts                                                                                         
                            He explained that the maintenance station                                                           
                            closures, the maintenance reductions, and                                                           
                            the federal funding agencies.                                                                       
                            Acting-Commissioner Barton continued,                                                               
                            listing the O&M FY03 Supplemental                                                                   
                            request, which would restore operations                                                             
                            for the remainder of the year and open                                                              
                            maintenance stations in Ninilchik, Birch                                                            
                            lake, and Chitina.  It would also restore                                                           
                            maintenance at airports in Skwentna and                                                             
                            Clear and would restore maintenance at                                                              
                            State buildings.                                                                                  
 1512 Co-Chair Harris       Questioned that in the request for                                                                  
                            supplemental funding, had Birch Lake been                                                           
                            reopened.                                                                                         
 1451 Acting-Commissioner Stated that it was.                                                                                 
      Barton                                                                                                                    
 1427 Acting-Commissioner Referenced the disaster slide indicating                                                              
      Barton                disasters which occurred in the Fall                                                                
                            2002:                                                                                               
                              · October Flood - Kenai Peninsula                                                                 
                              · November earthquake - Denali                                                                    
                              · November flood - Kenai                                                                          
                              · Federal Disaster Funding Agencies -                                                             
                                FEMA & FHWA                                                                                   
 1337 Acting-Commissioner Referenced the Kenai Floods impacts,                                                                
      Barton               noting that some would require a general                                                             
                           fund match. He noted that it was                                                                     
                           unfortunate that the Department was not                                                              
                           able to quickly get the permits that they                                                            
                           needed to address the impacts.                                                                     
      Co-Chair Harris      Asked about which division had affected                                                              
                           the permitting delay.                                                                              
1218 Acting-Commissioner Replied that it was the Habitat Division.                                                              
      Barton               He noted that the Department was still                                                               
                           identifying problems.                                                                              
1131 Acting-Commissioner Discussed airports, noting the impact                                                                  
     Barton               from the earthquake.  Alaska is the                                                                   
                           largest airport operator in the United                                                               
                           States.                                                                                            
1104 Representative        Asked which State airports were net                                                                  
      Stoltze              revenue producers.                                                                                 
1049 Acting-Commissioner Replied that Anchorage and Birchwood were                                                              
      Barton               the only revenue generating airports in                                                              
                           Alaska.                                                                                            
1028 Acting-Commissioner Added that even though the other airports                                                              
      Barton               do not make money, they provide an                                                                   
                           essential service within the State.                                                                
1006 Acting-Commissioner Spoke to the Alaska International Airport                                                              
      Barton               System (AIAS).                                                                                       
                             · Includes Anchorage 7 Fairbanks                                                                   
                                international airports                                                                          
                             · Enterprise fund covers operating                                                                 
                                costs and capital costs not paid for                                                            
                                by federal funds                                                                                
                             · Total annual operating budget is                                                                 
                                approximately $68 million dollars                                                               
                             · FAA capital funds and passenger                                                                  
                                facility charges total over $23                                                                 
                                million annually.                                                                               
                           He added that the Anchorage airport helps                                                            
                           the revenue situation of the Fairbanks                                                               
                           one.  Anchorage is the #1 cargo airport                                                              
                           in the United States and is the economic                                                             
                           engine for all of Alaska.                                                                          
841 Acting-Commissioner Highlighted the Ted Stevens Anchorage                                                                   
      Barton               International Airport.  He pointed out                                                               
                           that it is:                                                                                          
                             · Busiest floatplane base in the world                                                             
                             · Has the largest economic impact in                                                               
                                the State of Alaska                                                                             
                             · Serves 5 million passengers per year                                                             
                             · 58 airlines currently operating at                                                               
                                that airport                                                                                  
822 Acting-Commissioner The Fairbanks International Airport is                                                                  
      Barton                                                                                                                    
                             · The #13 cargo airport in the country                                                           
                              · Large floatplane base, which has                                                                
                                been recently expanded                                                                          
                              · Large economic impact                                                                           
                              · Serves 800,000 passengers per year                                                              
                              · 15 airlines currently operating at                                                              
                                that airport.                                                                                 
 717 Acting-Commissioner Outlined the design and engineering                                                                    
      Barton                services.  That Division consists of                                                                
                            bridge design, statewide materials, ports                                                           
                            and harbors, design and construction                                                                
                            standards and research and technology                                                               
                            transfer.                                                                                         
 628 Acting-Commissioner The actual construction program is the                                                                 
     Barton                responsibility of various regions.                                                                 
 524 Acting-Commissioner Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS)                                                                    
      Barton                                                                                                                    
                              · AMHS celebrated its 40th anniversary                                                            
                                             rd                                                                                 
                                on January 23                                                                                   
                              · 3,500 total nautical miles of                                                                   
                                coastline served by AMHS from                                                                   
                                Bellingham to Unalaska                                                                          
                              · CY2001 statistics - 318,891                                                                     
                                passengers and 93,946 vehicles which                                                            
                                equates to 60,902,285 passenger                                                                 
                                miles and 18,479,996 vehicle miles                                                              
                              · Alaska Marine Highway vessels                                                                   
                                traveled 475,650 nautical miles in                                                              
                                2000                                                                                            
                              · Designated a national Scenic Byway                                                              
                                in 2002                                                                                         
                              · Fuel costs average 11% of AMHS                                                                  
                                annual operating budget                                                                         
                              · Labor costs average 68% of the AMHS                                                             
                                annual operating budget                                                                       
 120 Co-Chair Harris        Questioned if the replaced 40+ ferryboats                                                           
                            would be replaced with more fast ferries.                                                         
 109 Acting-Commissioner Advised that the Department currently has                                                              
      Barton                options on 2 more fast ferries.  The                                                                
                            Department has not decided if they will                                                             
                            take advantage of those options.                                                                  
 52   CAPTAIN GEORGE        Noted that the strategic plan calls for a                                                           
      CAPACCI, GENERAL      future fleet mix, with some conventional                                                            
      MANAGER, MARINE       vessels with a system of fast ferries and                                                           
      HIGHWAY SYSTEM,       catamarans and future passenger only                                                                
      DEPARTMENT OF         ferries to interconnect.  The plan will                                                             
      TRANSPORTATION &      be a mix of both.  The current plan for                                                             
      PUBLIC FACILITIES     the year 2020 consists of five mainline                                                             
                            vessels, conventional vassals and a fleet                                                           
                            of five to six catamaran vessels.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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 019 Co-Chair Harris        Asked how much anticipated federal                                                                
                           funding would there be for the marine                                                                
                           highway.  Captain Capacci replied that                                                               
                           the vast majority of the funds would be                                                              
                           acquisition costs, federal funding.                                                                
108 Acting-Commissioner Discussed the ports and harbors.                                                                        
      Barton                                                                                                                    
                             · The Department is responsible for 73                                                             
                                public harbors                                                                                  
                             · 51 facilities operated by local                                                                  
                                governments                                                                                     
                             · Capital Program is largely Corps of                                                              
                                Engineers Program, except bond funds                                                            
                                and State match                                                                                 
                             · 39 active capital projects for $53.2                                                             
                                million in authorizations                                                                       
                             · HB 525 authorized $31.8 million                                                                  
                                dollars for upgrading and                                                                       
                                transferring 27 facilities in 10                                                                
                                communities                                                                                   
256 Acting-Commissioner Reviewed measurement standards and                                                                      
      Barton               commercial vehicle enforcement (MSCVE):                                                              
                             · MSCVE enforces all federal and State                                                             
                                commercial vehicle laws to ensure                                                               
                                safe highways                                                                                   
                             · MSCVE certifies the accuracy of all                                                              
                                weighing and measuring devices used                                                             
                                in committee                                                                                    
                             · MSCVE issues permits for overweight                                                              
                                vehicles                                                                                        
                             · MSCVE is implementing a new one-stop                                                             
                                web-based permit system                                                                       
457 Co-Chair Harris        Referred to the gravel to asphalt program                                                            
                           and asked if that was a program that the                                                             
                           Commissioner intended to keep.                                                                     
513 Acting-Commissioner Replied that the program would be                                                                       
      Barton               continuing.  He expressed his support.                                                             
528 Representative         Asked if the measurement program was a                                                               
      Stevens              self-supported program.                                                                            
544 Acting-Commissioner Responded that program is largely receipt                                                               
      Barton               supported.  They also certify scales that                                                            
                           are for State construction projects.                                                               
556 Representative         Referred to the international Airport                                                                
      Hawker               Fund.  He noted the $81.8 million                                                                    
                           unrestricted cash assets in that fund.                                                               
                           He asked if that money was in excess of                                                              
                           the needs of the International Airport                                                               
                           fund.                                                                                              
627 Acting-Commissioner Explained that those funds came through                                                                 
      Barton               the carriers.  It is not leftover general                                                            
                          fund dollars.                                                                                       
712 NANCY SLAGLE,          Agreed that the funds came from the                                                                  
      DIRECTOR, DIVISION   providers.  All of it has been identified                                                          
     OF ADMINISTRATIVE     for on-going capital projects. The                                                                   
      SERVICES, DEPARTMENT Capital and Operating budgets for the                                                                
      OF TRANSPORTATION     airports are set up through an operating                                                            
      AND PUBLIC            agreement that identifies anticipated                                                               
      FACILITIES            expenditures and then they develop their                                                            
                          landing fees.                                                                                       
 850 Representative         Requested if a schedule that could                                                                  
     Hawker                analysis that information could be                                                                   
                            provided to the Committee.                                                                        
 906 Vice-Chair Meyer       Asked when road construction could be                                                               
                            expected on the Abbott Luke extension.                                                            
 928 Acting-Commissioner Commented that he was not prepared to                                                                  
      Barton                speak to the Capital budget.  He noted                                                              
                            that the Kotzebue project would be the                                                              
                            first to come out of the bond package.                                                            
 1001 Vice-Chair Meyer      Asked if the State paid Bacon-Davis wages                                                           
                            on the road projects. Acting-Commissioner                                                           
                            Barton replied that they do.  Vice Chair                                                            
                            Meyer asked about expanding into                                                                    
                            parklands.                                                                                        
 1056 MICHAEL DOWNING,      Explained that the State is using federal                                                           
      ACTING DEPUTY         highway money and following their                                                                   
      COMMISSIONER,         procedures.  There is a provision called                                                            
      DEPARTMENT OF         4-F that complicates the process.  The                                                              
      TRANSPORTATION &      standard is if there is any reasonable                                                              
      PUBLIC FACILITIES     alternative to going across, the                                                                    
                            Department is required to choose that                                                               
                            alternative.  He emphasized that the                                                                
                            State is limited.                                                                                 
 1215 Vice-Chair Meyer      Observed that the alternative is to                                                                 
                            displace some families.                                                                           
 1228 Mr. Downing           Emphasized the need for creative                                                                    
                            solutions.                                                                                        
 1245 Vice-Chair Meyer      Asked how much of the budget was                                                                    
                            allocated for snow-removal.  He was                                                                 
                            curious that since there had not been                                                               
                            much snow this year, would some of that                                                             
                            money be carried forward.                                                                         
 1258 Acting-Commissioner 85% percent of the maintenance budget is                                                              
      Barton                designated for winter use.                                                                        
 1310 FRANK RICHARDS,       Explained that the snow removal budget                                                              
      STATEWIDE             for the Department is $86 million                                                                   
      MAINTENANCE AND       dollars.  That includes funding for the                                                             
      OPERATIONS,           facility maintenance as well.  The winter                                                           
      DEPARTMENT OF         maintenance costs are fixed in terms of                                                             
     TRANSPORTATION &      personnel, equipment and commodity                                                                   
      PUBLIC FACILITIES     purchases.  The costs are on a fiscal                                                               
                            year basis and if the product is not                                                                
                            expended, the product is carried forward.                                                         
 1412 Vice-Chair Meyer      Questioned fixed costs and asked if the                                                             
                            personnel were fixed costs or contract                                                              
                            costs.                                                                                            
1421 Mr. Richards          Replied that to a great extend, they are                                                             
                           State employees.  In the rural airports,                                                             
                           the Department does have contract to                                                                 
                           maintain those airports.                                                                           
1444 Vice-Chair Meyer      Questioned the ratio of State employees                                                              
                           in relationship to the contracts.                                                                  
1503 Mr. Richards          Observed that in Anchorage, the                                                                      
                           Department works with the Municipality.                                                              
                           There, the State and the City has road                                                               
                           responsibilities; however, contracts are                                                             
                           used in other areas whenever the                                                                     
                           opportunity exists.                                                                                
1622 Vice-Chair Meyer      Questioned the cost benefit.                                                                       
1634 Mr. Richards          Commented on the completion of the                                                                   
                           Whittier tunnel.  The tunnel operation                                                               
                           was privatized.  There was snow removal                                                              
                           in both the Whittier and the Bear Valley                                                             
                           side.  Because of the low winter, it was                                                             
                           hard to maintain a contract.  Because of                                                             
                           that, it has been difficult to get                                                                   
                           contracts because of the variable weather                                                            
                           possibilities and contractors were unsure                                                            
                           of the costs.  Eventually, the Department                                                            
                           went back to using State employees.                                                                
1736 Vice-Chair Meyer      Expressed his support for returning                                                                  
                           neighborhood roads to the local areas. He                                                            
                           spoke to the recycled asphalt program and                                                            
                           questioned if that product was being sold                                                            
                          to the cities.                                                                                      
1843 Mr. Downing           Explained that a policy was adopted to                                                               
                           use the recycle asphalt as part of the                                                               
                           base for all new high volume highway                                                                 
                           construction.  He acknowledged that the                                                              
                           State of Alaska recognizes the value.                                                              
1925 Vice-Chair Meyer      Questioned the goal for snow removal.                                                              
1938 Mr. Richards          Replied that the snow removal time frame                                                             
                           for high volume roads is as soon as                                                                  
                           possible when the snow hits.  Those roads                                                            
                           of less use, then 24 hours for initial                                                               
                           cleanup, and in smaller roads, it would                                                              
                           be an extended up to 48 hours time                                                                   
                           period.                                                                                            
2045 Vice-Chair Meyer      Referenced the Lake Hood airport.                                                                  
2056 Acting-Commissioner Replied that Lake Hood is the largest                                                                  
    Barton               floatplane base in the world.  It is                                                                   
                           extremely busy.                                                                                    
2108 Co-Chair Harris       Questioned if the Department was                                                                     
                           investigating turning over to the                                                                    
                           communities, the State highway system                                                                
                           that is within their community                                                                       
                           boundaries.                                                                                        
2144 Mr. Richards          Observed that there is a program to work                                                           
                            with communities through capital funds to                                                           
                            upgrade roads for those communities that                                                            
                            are willing to accept responsibility for                                                            
                            keeping their own roads.  He emphasized                                                             
                            that it would depend on the willingness                                                             
                            of communities to take on the                                                                       
                            responsibility.  The Department is                                                                  
                            supportive of working more with the                                                                 
                           communities.                                                                                       
 2251 Co-Chair Harris       Stressed that the State of Alaska should                                                            
                            do as they have asked the federal                                                                   
                            government to do and that is to provide                                                             
                            more grants with "less strings attached".                                                         
 2346 Acting-Commissioner Reiterated that the State is interested                                                               
      Barton                in transferring ownership of the                                                                    
                            unfounded roads.                                                                                  
 2404 Co-Chair Harris       Emphasized that he was not talking of                                                               
                            unfunded mandates.                                                                                
 2418 Representative        Referred to maintenance. He noted that                                                              
    Whitaker              the decision to cut was made at the                                                                   
                            Administration level.                                                                             
 2456 Representative        Asked how the replacement vessels would                                                             
      Stevens               be affected and the time line associated                                                            
                            with that in regard to the Safety At Life                                                           
                            At Sea Treaty (SALAST).                                                                           
 2514 Captain Capacci       Responded that SALAST has a number of                                                               
                            safety requirement that are coming down                                                             
                            that will cause old ships to be upgraded.                                                           
                            The Taku and the Matanuska have some                                                                
                            major rehabilitation of the passenger                                                               
                            deck for safety by 2010.  The estimate is                                                           
                            between $40 to $50 million dollars per                                                              
                            ship. He acknowledged that the Department                                                           
                            is trying to determine if it is wise to                                                             
                            spend that amount of money.  There are                                                              
                            options for construction of two                                                                     
                            additional fast ferries, but there is no                                                            
                            commitment at this time.                                                                          
 2703 Representative        Inquired regarding the status of the Tony                                                           
      Stoltze               Knowles Coastal Trail.                                                                            
 2719 Acting-Commissioner Responded that the Environmental Impact                                                               
      Barton                Statement (EIS) process is currently                                                                
                            underway. Public comments are still                                                                 
                            coming in. The Department is looking at                                                             
                            that project in order to determine where                                                            
                            it should go. He questioned why the                                                                 
                            project is a State project.  He believed                                                            
                            that it should be a local project.                                                                
 2925 Representative        Commented that 72-hour snow removal is                                                              
      Stoltze               too long.                                                                                         
 2951 Acting-Commissioner Responded that the State needs to look                                                                
      Barton                into privatization opportunities.                                                                 
3019 Representative        Observed that his district is dependent                                                              
      Stoltze              on recycled asphalt.                                                                               
3038 Mr. Downing           Explained that if the asphalt is ground,                                                             
                           it is remixed. If it is milled it can be                                                             
                           separated. The State would consider                                                                  
                           requests for recycle asphalt by local                                                                
                           communities.  The State wants to avoid                                                               
                           hauling it.                                                                                        
      ADJOURNMENT          The meeting was adjourned at 3:54 P.M.                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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